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Microsoft wants TT out of US market

February 27, 2009 - 20:52 h¦10 replies
Microsoft has filed a complaint against TomTom. MS claims that TT has infringed its patents and now wants an US import ban of TT products.
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Microsoft wants TT out of US market Microsoft has sued TomTom. The software giant maintains that the Dutch producer of navigational devices has infringed eight of their patents. Five of those patents cover car navigation and the other three, the storing of data.

Not only does Microsoft want TomTom to stop infringing their patents, they also demand a complete halt to imports of all TomTom products onto US soil.

Negotiations
According to Microsoft, both companies have been trying to reach a settlement for more than a year; they say they first reported this issue to TomTom in June 2008. "We have taken this action after attempting for more than a year to engage in licensing discussions with TomTom", says Horacio Gutierrez, corporate vice president and deputy general counsel of Intellectual Property and Licensing. He also adds: "We remain open to quickly resolving this situation with them through an IP licensing agreement."

For the last five years, Microsoft has allowed other companies to use their patents, as long as they pay a licence fee. Over that time, more than 500 agreements have been made with many different companies, including direct competitors like Apple and Google.

Patents
The patents which Microsoft claims are infringed by TomTom mainly deal with the simultaneous execution of different applications, the displaying of more natural navigational commands, integration with other systems and internet access. But MS also claim their patents for naming, organising and accessing files and the use of flash memory for music and photos are being infringed.

TomTom have rejected Microsoft's claims. The Dutch company said it will "vigorously defend" itself. Previously, in 2006, TomTom went to court with arch-rival Garmin for supposed patent infringements, but when the dust had settled, the general conclusion was there were no winners with that specific case.

Linux
Since three of the alleged patent infringements are over the basic FAT file system, this case could have huge ramifications for Linux and other open-source software. FAT (File Allocation Table) is an old technology, but is nowaydays still used a lot for flash cards, USB sticks and other simple devices which don't need a lot of security. It is also ideal for compatibility between Linux and Windows systems.

A lot of people feared this specific case would be a 'trial case' and that Microsoft's next target could be the Linux operating system. Microsoft has denied that. They claim their lawsuit is very specific to how TomTom uses the Linux kernel. Horacio Gutierrez: "(It's the) TomTom implementation of the Linux kernel that infringes these claims. There are many flavors of Linux (and) many implementations of the Linux kernel. Cases such as these are very fact-specific. This is just a normal course-of-business dispute between two companies. (Linux) is not the focal point of the action." Ironically, it could have been obviated had Microsoft bought TomTom back in 2006, as it was then rumored to be interesting in doing.

More bad news
This pending court case is more bad news for TomTom. Earlier this week the company had to announce a big loss in the fourth quarter of 2008, due to a deduction of more than one billion euro on the value of their recently purchased map supplier, Tele Atlas. The prospects for TomTom are rather bleak with the current worldwide economical situation. The negative publicity that automatically comes with this complaint by Microsoft is probably the last thing TomTom was looking for.


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Posted on: February 28, 2009 - 02:04 hour
By: GarCor
GarCor
Didn't you know that Microsoft believes it created Heaven & Earth and would like everyone to pay for the air we breath. rolleyes.gif
Posted on: February 28, 2009 - 08:39 hour
By: mrsmith
Microsoft can suck my Bal*s!

I completely agree with GarCor, they think that the world owes them something and maybe we do but come on Microsoft wake up this doesnt do anything for your public image as the big all powerful bully! No wonder so many people are moving over to Mac (not that they are perfect either)
Posted on: February 28, 2009 - 11:33 hour
By: Julf
Julf
This is why software patents are a Very Bad Idea. And illustrates the dangers of "Industry Standards" such as FAT - an "Industry Standard" is usually "property" of someone...
Posted on: March 8, 2009 - 05:28 hour
By: offthegrid
Certainly with TomTom about to release its 'Live' product here and Microsoft promoting its NavReady platform complete with 'Live' services also I wonder if there is more than meets the eye behind this.

TomTom has had a lot of time to consider its options and consult with Linux heavyweights on this. The settlement costs would have been fairly low from what I have read which leads me to believe that TomTom has some backing on this and a solid plan for the court battle.

Interesting that some gadget makers who agreed to pay MS and signed NDA's so the payments wouldn't be known publicly are in violation of their Linux distro agreement, Garmin most likely among them.

This will be a closely watched and heavily debated case.
Posted on: March 30, 2009 - 19:27 hour
By: Wayne Harris
I hope Microsoft lose Millions in a Court Battle!

shoddy bug filled software, expensive Garbage

Posted on: March 30, 2009 - 20:59 hour
By: bigade1
Posted on: March 30, 2009 - 22:11 hour
By: Andy_P
Posted on: April 1, 2009 - 11:27 hour
By: Bart
Bart
And it seems like a fair deal too!
QUOTE Microsoft said TomTom will pay Microsoft for use of the eight car navigation and file management system patents in the case Microsoft brought against TomTom, while Microsoft will be able to use the four patents included in the TomTom countersuit without any payment to TomTom.


Doesn't this strike as odd for you guys as well? Of course we don't know the specific details of the agreement, but IMO it seems TomTom really got the short end of the stick here.
Posted on: April 3, 2009 - 20:04 hour
By: angel13
angel13
It always bothers me to read about lawyers abusing a law which was put in place to help encourage innovation by protecting small time inventors. The end result is that large corporations who don't need protection mass produce patents on ideas they often don't bother to follow themselves in order to discourage competition. The net result is that they discourage innovation which means we all suffer. sad.gif
Posted on: July 9, 2009 - 22:18 hour
By: fagito2000
Microsoft can keep on dreaming if they think they can kick TT out of the US market. With what are they gonna do that...with their fantastic all the time crashing quality. Wake up Microsoft, your time is over yahoo.gif
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